all right that is governor mitt romney in engle wood, colorado having an incredible rally and a strong finish joining me now is ohio senator. than ann romney who has spent more time on the campaign trail with mitt romney than you. he was at the top of his game ear tonight. >> he sure was. a great message. positive. uplifting. a vision for the future. exactly the way to close in colorado and ohio and around the country. i think people really appreciate that. >> mike: he is not attacking the president. he is not talking so much about what is wrong with barack obama. he brings up the contrast but like the close with the boy scouts and the flag what are you seeing on the campaign trail? you are with him almost every day. have the moods that you have seen among the crowds changed over the last couple of weeks? >> actually they have, governor. i think they changed partly

because of the debate. our side got a lot more energized and as i told you earlier i have been to five mini rallies around ohio. i have never seen crowds like this and the kind of enthusiasm and energy on our side. last night we haded a rally with mitt romney and paul ryan and 30,000 people showed up and they are as boisterous as the crowd tonight. they were excited about a fresh start and excited about what he is talking about. >> i was amazed at his energy level 86 was thinking and you and i were talking i think we are both more tired than he seems to be. he is out there campaigning every day. >> he has a passion for it and the adrenaline now in the last few days. >> he has the view that america is on the wrong track and he can turn it around. has a strong following here in ohio and i think we will win the election because of it. >> mike: ohio is critical to the election. you traveled all over the state and you know it as well as

anybody. you have been a congressman and a united states senator for ohio. this is your home state. how do you see this coming down tuesday? >> well, ohio s a purple state. we are neither red nor are blue. barack obama won the state last time by five points. george bush won it twice and bill clinton won it twice. we have a little advantage and it is that energy and enthusiasm that i talked about earlier that we see on the campaign trail. i think we have a good ground game in place. ultimately it is about the passion and heart of the volunteers. i spent a lot of time with them this year. i think we will win this. i think it will be close but i think at the end of the day there will be a victory in ohio and so goes ohio more than likely so goes the country. >> mike: certainly it has been that way time and time again. it is tight but tipping one way or the other is it the issue or emotion of the voters and just the intensity that will put, ohio, in the romney column?

>> the concern here in ohio is although we are doing a little better than the national average as mary talked about earlier, things are still rough here in ohio. we are still on the wrong track. we still have a lot more potential we can achieve with leadership from washington. and people understand that. i was with a bunch of voters today who aren't republicans or democrats. folks showing up for the first time ever to make calls and go to a victor arery center. they are saying we can't afford another four years like the last four. they are looking for some opportunity for themselves and really for their kids and that s what i see throughout and mitt romney has offered again a positive plan for the future. the president has offered more of the same. and so these voters in ohio who are are undecided, who are more independent voters are looking at go the two candidates and se mitt romney offering a fresh approach to get the country back on track and barack obama offer oinging what has gotten us into this mess in the first place here in the the last four

years. >> mike: so much controversy about what happened in benghazi. we still don't really know. you are are a senator and you a right to ask for information but you and your colleagues aren't getting many answers. it hasn't seemed to capture the attention of the news media as far as this election is concerned. are you troubled that we he don't know what happened in benghazi and we aren't getting clear concise and consistent answers from the state department, from the white house and other elements of the administration? >> very troubled. and governor, you and i have talked a little about this. a shocking operational breakdown not to have the security in place after what we have now found were explicit requests for more security. and then during this 7-hour fire fight that terrible night in benghazi not to come to the aid of fellow americans including an ambassador, the first one assassinated since 1979 we -- i'm on the armed services committee as you know. i sent a letter to secretary panetta asking about what the

d.o.d., the department of defense had done. i didn't get an answer back. i sent another oney john mccain more recently. the american people have a right to know. we'll see what happens. i think just in the last couple of days i have seen a little more interest among the media in looking that the issue because it truly is a shocking breakdown on the operational side but also after the fact misleading the american people about what happened. i think you will start to see more interest in this and i hope we can get to the bottom of it very quickly. >> mike: s there a reason that governor romney has not made that a bigger issue in the waning days of the campaign? >> well, he has talked about it some. but i think he is has allowed surrogates like you and me to talk about it more. folks on the armed services committee like senator mccain and senator graham have done a job of racing issues like what the answers are we are looking

for. there is something very wrong when you have americans in harm's way and folks not responding coming to their aid despite their pleas. i also think what happened in benghazi unfortunately is an example of the spread of islamic extremism around north africa. the horn of africa. the middle east which runs contrary to what the president is saying including on the campaign trail just yesterday i heard him say that al-qaeda is on the run. they are on the ropes. that we have taken care of this problem in essence. unfortunately, that is not true. the reality is we still face a lot of dangers around the world which is why we need a military second to none and one of the issues that governor romney does talk about a lot it the fact that if he is elected he will not cut the military. if president obama is reelected he snead his own budget he wants to cut the mill tare arery a half trillion dollars and then in the sequestration another half trillion dollars. that is one of the big distinctions in the race. >> because you have spent more

time with him on the campaign trail was there a moment during the campaign that you saw the switch go on and mitt romney become the candidate we are are seeing tonight where all of the cylinders are firing? >> i think he loved the debates because the debates were an opportunity for him to frankly go around the attack ads and tell the american people directly who he is and what he stands for and that is when did well. i think that was the moment. it was is perhapses a little more confidence on his part because he had that opportunity but it was mostly going around the media and what people were hearing about who he was and being able to tell the american people directly. here in ohio we were being outspent all summer and into the fall about three to one on the campaign ads and the obama campaign ads were pretty effective and very negative. so the image of governor romney was not the an accurate one. he was able to get around the mischaracteristics and misperceptions about what his policies were and do it directly and that has made a

difference. >> mike: for you to be here tonight means a lot. >> i met a bunch of your fans and they all appreciate what you do with this show and what you are doing around the country for so many candidates. >> mike: if i have fans, may their tribe increase. >> less than two months after terrorists killed americans in benghazi, libya, president is saying al-qaeda hass been decimated. my reaction to the the president's claims and othert notable quotables when wery return. i like to eat a lot of fruits. love them all. the seal i get with the super poligrip free keeps the seeds from getting up underneath. even well-fitting dentures let in food particles. super poligrip is zinc free. with just a few dabs, it's clinically proven to seal out more food particles so you're more comfortable and confident while you eat. a lot of things going on in my life and the last thing i want to be thinking about is my dentures. [ charlie ] try zinc free super poligrip.

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well, with three days left, both candidates have been flying all over the country trying to fit in as many campaign stops as humanly possible. but the speeches are to different audiences in is swing states to you might expect them

to repeat their talking points in each and every speech. one of the president's favorite lines kicks off our quotes of the week. >> the war in afghanistan is winding down. al-qaeda has been decimated. >> al-qaeda has been decimate. >> al-qaeda has been decimated. >> mike: we have been hearing that a lot. you know, the president and vice president joe biden has been telling us that okay osama bin laden is dead and gn is alive. maybe the real theme ought to be more like al-qaeda is alive and a u.s. ambassador is dead. this narrative thathas been dey a little premature for the president to announce. it is evident al-qaeda was behind the attack in benghazi, libya. it was not just one person. we are all glad and i salute the president for calling the order to get rid of osama bin laden and we give them credit

for that. but the idea that somehow we no longer have an issue with islamic jihaddism is ne naive. they will be around as long as there is any one willing to carry the torch and believe you me there is something will willing to do it. >> we will not tolerate red tape. we will not tolerate bureaucracy. we go through tough times but we bounce back and the reason we bounce back is because we look out for one another and we don't believe anybody behind. >> mike: that it the way it is supposed to be. we don't leave any one behind. you might have a hard time convincing some folks in staten island or long island or some folks on the jersey shore that no one has been left behind. some of them haven't seen food or water or electricity, either gasoline or fuel for their homes new in freezing

conditions since the initial hit of hurricane sandy. but they are not the only ones who feel left behind. i have a feeling that some of those folks in the consulate in benghazi on the night of september 11th they felt left behind for nine hours as a heavy assault happened. carefully orchestrated and planned. and then felt left behind for 17 days afterwards when the only real explanation the administration had for that incredible attack was that someone had been offended because they watched something on youtube. we should never leave an american behind whether they are on our shores, struggling from the aftermath of a hurricane, or trying to get out from under the guns of terrorists determined to kill every last one of us. finally, here is how the president tried to motivate people to vote while campaigning in ohio just yesterday. >> at the time the republican congress and a senate candidate

by the name of mitt romney -- no, no, no, don't boo, vote. vote. voting is is the best revenge. >> well, i understand the president may have been using that as a rhetorical device. this is not about revenge. that is what is wrong with american politics it is about people winning and other people losing. when can it not be just simply a matter of every american winning because we are a country that recognizes that we may have sharp and stark differences but after all we are americans and each of us have to respect the other and give a little, take little and learn to live as one nation under god, not a nation looking to get evenge at the other side. we have a remarkable story when we come back. we'll continue our show with a closing and powerful story of a couple who know mitt romney in a way that, well, you might not

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one of the criticisms leveled at governor mitt romney is he a just a ruthless cold calculating businessman and didn't have compassion for people. that story got exploded during the republican convention. you may remember this remarkable couple who came to the podium to tell a different side of mitt romney. >> the true measure of a man is revealed in his actions during times of trouble. the quiet hospital room of a dying boy with no cameras and no reporters.

>> mike: joining me now from burlington, vermont, ted and patricia operkowski. your story was pow youerful. i'm not sure there was a dry eye in the house and this is a pretty big house and no dry eyes. ted, how did you first meet governor romney? what was the reason for your encounter with him? >> well, the governor was church oriented. we met him at church the first time, him and his wife. and then from there we interacted a little and i was involved with the republican party in the city that i lived in and i asked him to speak. that was years ago and when his father was still a person of note. and then he spoke and he spoke about -- the is subject he spoke was his father ho who hed

a high regard for and -- >> and patricia -- go ahead, ted. patricia, i wanted to ask about your son. he was 14, diagnosed with hodgkins disease. terminally ill. >> nonhodgkins. >> mike: nonhodgkins. >> during that time that is when mitt romney ministered to your family in a personal way. tell us about that. >> well, he used to come and visit us at our home and david ended up in and out of the hospital a lot because of treatments and infections and we discovered that mit would go to the hospital and visit david. we didn't really know that for awhile. but he did. and i think he must have done that early in the morning because we never saw him. ted bumped into him one time but i never saw him there and i was with david at the hospital

most of the time. >> mike: and there was a remarkable story about david who knew that mitt romney was a harvard law graduate and asked him about making a will which is stuning that a 14-year-old boy would even think of such a thing. what did mitt romney do when david asked him to help him? >> well, that is -- his mother knows more about that. but really what happened is knowing mitt that -- was a -- went to law school and he was a lawyer even though not practicing, david asked him because david at that time knew he was dying. he knew that a few weeks before and he was preparing as a 14-year-old boy in his way which is makes him a bigger man than many other people i know. >> mike: we have lost them. and, you know, patricia and

ted, i want to say thank you. you know, your story, how mitt romney came and helped them put together a will so that he could give away some of his possessions to his friends. it does show a different side of him than we have ever heard before and patricia and ted, thank you for coming. i know it has been a long evening for you. we appreciate your being here tonight from vermont. >> well, it is our pleasure, governor. >> thank you so very much. >> mike: i want to thank all of you for joining us here tonight on this special edition of huckabee. and with the romney speech we have extended a little bit. but more importantly, we want to close tonight by asking you to consider not only praying for those folks along our northeastern shore are who have been devastated by hurricane sandy, but do something more than just think about them or pray for them. make a contribution to a charity that will reach out and help them and there are a number of people who have lost everything. everything. and they just need something

from each of us. certainly we can give them our prayers but something tangible in the way of a contribution is most appropriate. that is what americans do. it is who we are. now, that we are approaching an election and we think the most important thing in the world is the next president, for some people the most important thing in their world is the next meal or being able to get new the next night without heat or a way to get to work. for all of those folks, we say may god be with you and thanks for joining us tonight. from columbus, ohio, this is mike huckabee. until next week, good night and captioned by closed captioning services, inc.

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the first order of government is the protection of its citizens. the first order of the military is to march to the sound of the gun and leave no one behind. this week our commander in chief reaffirmed his pledge to

support and protect all americans. >> we are here for you. and we will not forget. we will follow up to make sure that you get all of the help that you need. >> judge jeanine: unless, of course, you are in benghazi. hello and welcome to "justice." i'm judge jeanine pirro. this week cables continue to prove that the obama administration lied, denied, and people died. those cables reveal more of what the white house knew and when they knew it. it wasn't 48 hours after the attack when the white house knew that ansar al-sharia attacked the consulate but less than four hours that they knew who was responsible and yet mr. president you continued to say "the view" and letterman that you were investigating and you talked about the video and you continued to apologize to the arab world.

not only do we know that ambassador stevens was afraid for his safety and he wasn't sure that he would even live through 9/11, but he sent a cable at 6:43 a.m. on september 11th that morning saying that libyans who were part of the police mission were photographing the mission inside. and hillary even before that cables notified you on august 16 that security was trending negatively and that there was a concern that the libyan militia, charged with protecting the consulate, had been compromised. even infiltrated by extremists and that approximately 10 islamist militias and al-qaeda training camps were known to operate around benghazi. and yet you, hillary, continued to talk about a video that no

one besides you ever heard of. >> the united states government had absolutely nothing to do with this video. we absolutely reject its content and message. >> judge jeanine: and now we know that you yo not only had notice, warnings and individual pleas for help from the ambassador, which you refused, but that you watched the savegeing of four american -- savegeing of four americans in real time. those in the white house situation room watched it as it happened. but i guess pictures of the white house situation room are only released when they benefit you. but oh, i foregot, what is to watch? al-qaeda is on itsit has been . in fact, the president told us that this very week. >> al-qaeda has been decimated.

osama bin laden is dead. >> now, i know the old geiser who watched porno films in that hut is dead but i'm not so sure al-qaeda is. let's not politicize this. >> this is something that the american people can take to the bank is that my administration plays this stuff straight. we don't play politics when it comes to american national security. >> judge jeanine: take it to the bank? mr. president, your check just bounced. here is one person determined to find the truth about benghazi. senator john mccain joins me now on the phone. good evening, senator. >> good evening, judge. i'm sorry that i'm not there to be looked at. we are in virginia and we are campaigning for mitt romney and so i'm glad to talk to you on the phone. by the way, i think your

depiction of events as they have transpired everything i know is totally accurate and i want to mention to you that in traveling around virginia today i was in ohio yesterday, i was in montana before that, north dakota, i can tell you our veterans and our active duty military are angry. they have lost any trust in this commander in chief that they might have once had and i'm telling you i have never seen them so angry as they are and with good reason. >> judge jeanine: and, of course, senator, none of us can blame them. but senator, you are asking for a new committee to be created an immediate creation of a temporary select committee possibly encompassing members of both the senate and the house to conduct an investigation into the death of these four americans. we know darrell issa has his government reform and oversight committee looking at it and we

have other committees. thing of the greatest interest is that hillary clinton is investigating her own state department. are you requesting this select committee not trusting the findings of the state department? >> you can't trust their findings. you can't trust the timeline that was just put out by the cia. fox already reported in the last few hours that there are people on the ground in libya that will directly refute their sequence of events. it is a coverup, judge. let's call it what it is, it is a coverup. and one of our veterans by the way pointed out to me that in watergate nobody died. and the fact is that we -- in order for the american people to get the full story they would have to be a bipartisan select committee like watergate and like severaller whos that we have had like iran contra and the facts need to be known and the facts can only come out that way.

and any conclusions that the state department or any other government organization might have have to be discounted completely. and finally, you cannot have a situation like this continue to fester, it now turned into a centipede. another shoe just dropped a couple of hours ago and believe me, there are more. >> judge jeanine: senator, a lot of people are saying that the august 16 cable that serves as basically a smoking gun that al-qaeda had training camps and they were worried about them in benghazi. do you think it was a smoking gun? >> i think it is one of the smoking guns. i think that one of the other smoking guns is, of course, the attacks on the consulate that took place in april and june. the fact that the british ambassador -- there was an assassination attempt and the fact that they closed their

consulate. the red cross left. there were many repeated warnings. you just talked about ambassador chris stevens. he sent a mul multitude of cabs back demanding that there be a better security or warning of the deterioration. you know, foreign policy magazine people went in to the consulate there and found some other messages. i mean isn't that stunning that months later that they should be coming in? where was the fbi? but i think the major point is that the president of the united states wanted to say that osama bin laden is gone and al-qaeda is on the run. al-qaeda is not on the run. they are all over iraq. they are pouring in to syria. they have taken over northern mali. i'm telling you it is because the weak and feckless leadership by this president that al-qaeda is not only not on the run or decimated they are far, far stronger than they

were four years ago. >> judge jeanine: and senator, i think events of of the past month or so have made that clear. senator, you been in politics for many years around all of us believe you our government. we want to believe our government leaders. have you lost faith, have you lost faith like so many people have in the word of the white house and what clearly are lies? they knew they were lies at the time? how does it make you feel? >> makes me feel terrible. makes me even feel worse that i lost. but when the president of the united states says things that are patently false, when goes to the united nations even and says that it was still a spontaneous demonstration caused by a hateful video, when -- i was on "face the nation" the sunday that susan rice was out there and immediately after susan rice gave that message, the hateful video they had the president of

the libyan national assembly come on right after that and said no, this is an al-qaeda operation. an al-qaeda operation. he said it unequivocally. let for days and weeks afterwards they kept up this facade. i guess they think they are running out the clock. just yesterday the state department had a news conference and their spokesperson refused to answer a single question about benghazi. somehow that? >> judge jeanine: and you know what, senator, i think when you can say you are investigating and it is all about beat the clock. >> absolutely. >> judge jeanine: the election is three days away and the biggest concern i think of some especially the military is will we ever get to the bottom of this. will we ever know or get the administration to admit what they knew. >> the only way we are going to know is a bipartisan committee. a select committee such as we had with iran contra and water

gate and others that has credibility with the american people. by the way, i wonder when the mainstream moodia is going to -- media is going start carrying this story? >> judge jeanine: certainly a disappointment to all of us. senator, we very much appreciate your time and we will take a rain check on your being here this evening. thank you so much, senator john mccain. >> and could i just finally say thank you you for your staying on this store arery, judge. i appreciate it. >> judge jeanine: my pleasure. >> and so do the families of the people who died. thank you. >> judge jeanine: thank you, senator. coming up, did the obama administration sit on its hands and watch as four americans were killed when help was just minutes away?

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>> retired u.s. army colonel and fox military analyst, and former cia operative mike baker in new york city. thanks for being with us this evening. the first thing i want to talk about, now that we know there was this cabling on august august 16th, basically saying al qaeda is in the region, we're squared scared, we need more security. we now no the white house situation room was watching real time as this unfolded. i want to look at who was in the white house situation, who would

have been able to see what was going on in benghazi. >> you have department of state security office on the phone, to the department of state operations there. that goes directly to the situation room. he had a drone up. ran out of gas. another drone up. you had cia operations guys in benghazi talking, and then guys -- >> so we have audio, visual, and calls at that point in real-time and satellite and the drones, so who is watching. >> this is unfolding before their eyes and as the colonel said, as soon as this balloon goes up, you've got langly, for the cia, state department, the white house situation room. they're all screaming for information. and so you have the chief of base in benghazi, to the degree he can, the chief of station in tripoli. they're all sending information back. they positioned a drone overhead to provide -- the clarity is quite good -- to provide

information on their terminal so they can watch. >> so anyone who had access to that computer could see this real-time. >> the third embassy in 24 hours going up in smoke. a lot of trouble in the middle east. everybody is watching and listening. >> let's talk about, the question should be, who didn't know? what was going on? everybody knew. let's talk about the military assets in the area that could have gotten to benghazi. >> there's an important point to lead this off with. as we talk about this. which is that in very short order the white house knew that we were not getting a counterassault support from the libyans themselves. so we knew, as this thing was beginning to unfold, the libyans, our friends, were doing nothing to provide support. >> because we knew at 6:43 in the morning that -- and from the cable a month before, that it was being infiltrated. so, this libyan militia, they

said they called for him, they're almost the enemy. >> we have been at war for 11 years. what the united states military and intelligence community know how to do is react to a fire fight in another country. we had jets, and ability on the ground from the cia to call them in, and to pinpoint -- >> all right. what's an f-16. >> a very fast moving jet. >> what's on it? >> guns, bombs, very -- and they can go very specific targeted if they have somebody pointing at it. the point is it's very fast and very available. within 25 minutes. >> you have the resources. you have seen on the graphic in the region. the important thing is we've got -- this attack is unfolding, this agency, the cia has personnel on the ground, global response guys, they are not there to provide long-term defensive capability. they there are to hold off the

hostiles until the cavalry shows up, and the covenant is that the cavalry will show up. >> it didn't. the cia guys did a phenomenal job. >> they're heroes. >> they reacted with side arms against 125 guys, and actually rescued some people. the problem is the military is supposed to back them up. >> let's talk about the f-16. with the bomber capability we know there were some in northern italy and we say it would take 25 minutes, from the base or -- >> if they move the aircraft, which they did, down to siganala, they're 25 minutes from the target. >> the first attack its 9:40. they know about it immediately. yes in. >> yes. >> 25 minutes later, the fight goes on how late? >> the fight goes on for -- >> for nine hours. but there's two waves. the first wave is when you lose stevens, and the other -- and smith. the second wave, seven hours

later -- >> doesn't matter. we know that once the attack starts, we know that we've got a very short period of time for the -- on the ground 0, cia people to have some type of counterassault effort to try to hold off until the military shows, and we know again the libyans aren't providing support. so at that point immediately you have to try. >> but we had the f-16s and could have gotten 0 to benghazi long before the second wave, if not the first wave. >> yeah. all they needed was the order to go, and they weren't given it. >> they kept asking for it. let's go to an ac-130. what its that? >> ac-130 is a c-130 with a 105-millimeter canyon, a good gn x and we had agencies on the group that could have called it. i. >> that's is what woods kept calling for.

>> yes, we had two of our guys the ron rooftop. identified hostile positions, they were anticipating, hoping -- it's not just the two guys on the rooftop we're talk about trying to save. it's the 30 plus from the consulate that our guys rescued, all those people that apparently the white house said, i don't know, maybe you'll be taken hostage or you'll die in the attack but we're not going to try. >> moving people under fire to their face and need this military cover, which is available. it was moved to help them and didn't get the order to go. >> let's give some of the benefit of the doubt. i don't like giving liars the benefit of the doubt. let's assume they were worried about collateral damage. they could have lowered the f-16s to make a lot of noise and disburse the crowd? >> they could a have done a flyover, and again, this is the part that is so frustrating and disingenuous, and honestly i don't know how anybody who has been in the military or intel community, how they can

understand or process what the white house is saying. we didn't have information. >> we had visual and audio information. again, we've been fighting for 11 years in iraq and afghan. we know how to do this. >> let's pull up the next screen we heard about delta force being moved from central europe to ciganela. >> special force operations, they're the best we have in the army. again, people would recognize it because of the seal team 6. same type of organization, counterterrorism. they were training in europe in -- and they got the call with two and a half hours to get to benghazi, and the special forces group, a marine forward area support team. these are trained marines to do exactly what they were not allowed to do. >> they could have made it but no one gave them permission to go.

>> piniella said, who i have a great deal of respect for, very good at the agency, about he has come out and is carrying water for the administration and is saying that we didn't have enough information, we can't deploy the troops into harm's way. that's what they train for. that what they expect to be dropped into harm's way. >> they don't need to pack a bag for 24 hours later. they just hit. >> they're ready to go. >> if you wait for all the information, bad things happen. >> of course, of course, and what senator mccain just said, the military is worried now. while the cavalry come? thank you so much for being with us explain this. we're going to do more of this in the future. coming up, the president says, al qaeda is decimated and on its heels. is he even telling the truth and later, will we ever see justice for the four americans killed in benghazi? where others fail, droid powers through.

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president obama is repeatedly claimed that al qaeda is on the run. on its heels, and keeps bringing up that osama bin laden's death has occurred. but is he telling the truth? is al qaeda really desdecimated? with me is former reagan defense official and frank gaffney, a pleasure to have you with us this evening. >> good evening. good to be with you. >> let's talk about al qaeda, is it decimateed, on the run, on its heels? >> i believe the president is knowingly misleading the american people, putting it gently. lying to them about this --

there's every reason to believe that al qaeda is stronger today than it was when he took office. it certainly is operating with impunity in more places, and is more aggressive as a result, i believe, of his policies. so far from them being on the path to defeat or decimated, as he likes to say, apart from some people in the leadership who clearly have been taken out, the organization and particularly the franchises of the organization, the wanna-bes, those affiliated with it that are now rung, in some cases effectively, countries. for example, the size of france. >> frank, let me ask you this. where are they getting their arms from? >> it's some of it, i believe, they're getting from places that are -- happy to supply them. i think the saudis, the turks

are providing some of the arms. some of the arms i think almost certainly have emanated from the caches of moammar gadhafi, and some reason to believe those were made available through a pipeline from our own efforts to gather up those weapons in libarch sent on to turkey, by shipment, as fox news reported, and sent across the border to syria. unfortunately the people getting the weapons in syria are the muslim brotherhood. >> i'm coming up against a hard break. frank, muslim brotherhood, are we in a better position with them? charge? who are they? very quickly, frank. >> the muslim brotherhood is an organization that is it -- islamist to its core. seeks our destruction.

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